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Here we go: it's anime and manga time.
Now saying anime is an influence has apparently taken a different sort of meaning in recent years since the mid-00s when the industry decided to pander to otaku over normal customers, so I have to stress to those unaware that anime as it is now is not as it was before. The reason many western viewers watch anime now is very different to why they used to forty, thirty, or even fifteen, years ago. Not that I can't enjoy some good modern anime, but the reason it sucked me in is different to the reason most enjoy it now.
I'm in it for the hotblooded conflicts and adventure.
There are two different branches this influence comes from so please be patient as I explain each. First I'm going to start with the one that doesn't have much in the way of anime adaptions, mostly locked entirely to manga with the occasional early 90s OVA adaption. You might not know much about this one. I'm referring to the delinquent genre.
Technically starting near the beginning of modern manga through series such as Ashita no Joe, this is the story of a modern teenage youth dissatisfied with a society that undervalues traditional masculinity and has no place for it, or them. It epitomizes a society lost inside itself. These stories can vary from being about confused youth such as Rokudenashi Blues in not knowing the way to adapt to society, to stories of how friendship can save you in series like Kiku, to even about finding love and a woman to protect and becoming a man despite it all.
But there was more to it than that. Kyou Kara Ore Wa!! was a comedy about a boy who decided to be a delinquent one day and ends up in chaotic situation after chaotic situation. Cromartie High was a parody on the genre while at the same time understanding its foibles and strengths. There was a lot of flexibility of the style. For a good while it was the second most popular genre behind action and adventure.
Of course the most popular delinquent series, and probably the biggest the genre will ever get, was merging adventure with the style in Yu Yu Hakusho. The story was about aggressive youth Yusuke Urameshi, a worthless punk who decides to save a boy's life out of the blue which ends up killing him. He is then given a second chance at life as a spirit detective to hunt down those who would do harm to humanity. This one combines the best of delinquent series with the popular battle shonen formula to become one of anime's most well known. The anime was a massive hit, and it still remains the only delinquent manga that isn't some sort of parody to get a proper anime adaption.
This sort of manga got really popular in the late 80s through the late 90s before it got usurped by the milquetoast harem protagonist overtaking just about everything. Since then it has been mostly glorified yakuza stories with teenage characters or parodies treading the same jokes.
The closest thing to this genre we had in the west hadn't really been around for decades with old Hollywood movies. Those movies were more interested in glamorizing misspent youth than exploring why aggression and anger like this might even occur and what it might be used for to benefit society and others. It requires understanding masculinity in a way no one in charge is willing to.
It started in the early 90s on a station from Canada called YTV. They used to air cartoons and kid shows from all over the world from every era at the time. One of the series they used to air was a little known one, at the time, called Dragon Ball. This was the original show, to be exact. Watch a comically powerful kid go on an adventure through a strange fairy land to make a wish on the legendary Dragon Balls. They only aired the first 13 episodes which is was but one arc but they left their impression. That was the first anime I ever really got into.
I later discovered series and movies such as Robotech / Macross, Ronin Warriors, Teknoman, Galaxy Express 999, Akira, and the like, which stuck with me long afterwards. The elemental armors in Knights of the End, for example, are inspired by Ronin Warriors even though they work more like they do in Saint Seiya. Suffice to say anime left its mark on me.
It was only later that I discovered darker fare such as Ninja Scroll, Bubblegum Crisis, or Vampire Hunter D. This rabbit hole went deeper than I thought! By high school I had learned just what this whole anime and manga thing were all about, and I had begun diving into it..
But the peak of the whole thing came around the late '90s when I discovered a trio of series known as the Space Western Trilogy among those in the know. All releasing in 1998 and all were giant hits overseas as opposed to at home, the three of them went on to become some of the highest selling series in the west. But they were also great.
Of course I don't have to tell you that I'm talking about Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, and Trigun. These three changed the game.
I would be remiss to not mention that around this time Viz Media began to finally put manga out here in both the original unflipped right to left format but also in magazine form as Shonen Jump became a monthly release in the west. This meant manga had finally cracked the market and reading classics like Rurouni Kenshin (better than the anime!), Flame of Recca (the manga is in a whole other league) and those mentioned above became quite a good deal easier to read.
Not long after Viz licensed a series from Naoki Urasawa called Monster. The anime was a good adaption, but it was long and has since become hard to find. So it is the manga which stuck around long after and is the more well known. This is a series about a doctor who saves the wrong patient after being told to abandon him. This leads him into a world of corruption and hidden evil as he tries to find the right answer. It is a battle between good and evil where the stakes are souls and identity.
His follow-up series, 20th Century Boys, is another good against evil series, this time being more of a combination of Stephen King's The Stand and It with a heavy dose of pulp in the veins and far less degeneracy. It was adapted to a trio of live action movies, but the manga still stands as the best way to experience the story.
It was about at this time the original anime and manga boom began to die off. Shady publishers such as Tokyopop and over-saturation were key reasons, but also because Japan decided to crack down on piracy by appealing their products to hardcore otaku instead of those who wanted more series such as Trigun, Monster, or Full Metal Alchemist. They doubled down on easy money at the expense of experimentation or wider audience satisfaction.
To be sure, such series were still made but were pushed to the side when they were once the focus of the industry and created the overseas success anime and manga still enjoy now. But that first boom is what influenced many of those like me.
What is important to note is that should you take anime and manga out of the equation, entertainment options in the late '90s and '00s are limited by quite a good deal. There are those who to this day think of anime and manga as this weird anomaly that came out of nowhere and that is completely nonsensical in the wider scheme of things. It went from being known as that "tentacle porn" thing in the "Japanimation" days to being known as wish fulfillment for the dateless in the moe era, neither of which are the case. Those who call themselves action and adventure aficionados have bypassed much of the best of it due to preconceptions of an entire genre formed on a minority example. I can't imagine being a writer of the fantastical and completely ignoring anime and manga. You might as we go watch Disney Star Wars and the rest of the stale modern pap being pushed out by modern mega-corporations.
Watch a few episodes of the original Macross (or Robotech if you have to) or Cowboy Bebop, or Escaflowne, and you will be stunned at the level of storytelling and creativity it has that the mainstream is entirely missing today and has been for many years.
While the medium has its own problems, as some of those infamous stigmas it has are real, the medium still remains far above what you will find in western comic books or television today. It still remains the best place to find pulp inspired stories outside of the printed word. If it wasn't for anime and manga I don't think I ever would have pursued writing, as action based storytelling had all but been banished by the time I picked up that issue of Dragon Ball back in the day. I'm not alone in that, either.
So yes, it has had a massive influence on what I write and how I perceive stories. I even have an idea for a future post examining these strengths and weaknesses the mediums have. For now, though, it has proven itself to be one of the few remaining positive influences on future writers, animators, and comic artists, and one that should be watched and examined. There is something there worth exploring.
And so ends this entry. Next post I will go into a less controversial area that will be sure to entertain. How do video games influence fiction writing and thought processes? I guess we'll see.
Until next time.
There are two different branches this influence comes from so please be patient as I explain each. First I'm going to start with the one that doesn't have much in the way of anime adaptions, mostly locked entirely to manga with the occasional early 90s OVA adaption. You might not know much about this one. I'm referring to the delinquent genre.
Kiku |
But there was more to it than that. Kyou Kara Ore Wa!! was a comedy about a boy who decided to be a delinquent one day and ends up in chaotic situation after chaotic situation. Cromartie High was a parody on the genre while at the same time understanding its foibles and strengths. There was a lot of flexibility of the style. For a good while it was the second most popular genre behind action and adventure.
This sort of manga got really popular in the late 80s through the late 90s before it got usurped by the milquetoast harem protagonist overtaking just about everything. Since then it has been mostly glorified yakuza stories with teenage characters or parodies treading the same jokes.
Bucchigiri: Bad Boy Boogie |
Even Japan must find this sort of thing uncomfortable, though. After all, as I said, these series rarely ever got anime adaptions, probably due to sponsors and advertisers not finding this sort of thing very friendly to the majority of the population or their higher-ups. Perhaps they're right. Either way, it is definitely an interesting genre when it is done right.
Unfortunately, outside of random examples it is mostly gone today. You might find a delinquent character in a manga or anime now but it is rare that they are ever portrayed as anything other than an idiot or a one dimensional thug for the hero to beat down.
Times change, but these stories don't age much. And they still beat what ended up replacing them even years after the fact.
But that's only half of what inspired me.
Aside from this genre the most obvious influence for me is the same it is for most anyone who got into anime before the late 00s, and that is the adventure genre.
Unfortunately, outside of random examples it is mostly gone today. You might find a delinquent character in a manga or anime now but it is rare that they are ever portrayed as anything other than an idiot or a one dimensional thug for the hero to beat down.
Times change, but these stories don't age much. And they still beat what ended up replacing them even years after the fact.
But that's only half of what inspired me.
Aside from this genre the most obvious influence for me is the same it is for most anyone who got into anime before the late 00s, and that is the adventure genre.
Fist of the North Star |
I later discovered series and movies such as Robotech / Macross, Ronin Warriors, Teknoman, Galaxy Express 999, Akira, and the like, which stuck with me long afterwards. The elemental armors in Knights of the End, for example, are inspired by Ronin Warriors even though they work more like they do in Saint Seiya. Suffice to say anime left its mark on me.
It was only later that I discovered darker fare such as Ninja Scroll, Bubblegum Crisis, or Vampire Hunter D. This rabbit hole went deeper than I thought! By high school I had learned just what this whole anime and manga thing were all about, and I had begun diving into it..
But the peak of the whole thing came around the late '90s when I discovered a trio of series known as the Space Western Trilogy among those in the know. All releasing in 1998 and all were giant hits overseas as opposed to at home, the three of them went on to become some of the highest selling series in the west. But they were also great.
Of course I don't have to tell you that I'm talking about Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, and Trigun. These three changed the game.
Trigun |
Not long after Viz licensed a series from Naoki Urasawa called Monster. The anime was a good adaption, but it was long and has since become hard to find. So it is the manga which stuck around long after and is the more well known. This is a series about a doctor who saves the wrong patient after being told to abandon him. This leads him into a world of corruption and hidden evil as he tries to find the right answer. It is a battle between good and evil where the stakes are souls and identity.
His follow-up series, 20th Century Boys, is another good against evil series, this time being more of a combination of Stephen King's The Stand and It with a heavy dose of pulp in the veins and far less degeneracy. It was adapted to a trio of live action movies, but the manga still stands as the best way to experience the story.
It was about at this time the original anime and manga boom began to die off. Shady publishers such as Tokyopop and over-saturation were key reasons, but also because Japan decided to crack down on piracy by appealing their products to hardcore otaku instead of those who wanted more series such as Trigun, Monster, or Full Metal Alchemist. They doubled down on easy money at the expense of experimentation or wider audience satisfaction.
To be sure, such series were still made but were pushed to the side when they were once the focus of the industry and created the overseas success anime and manga still enjoy now. But that first boom is what influenced many of those like me.
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba |
Watch a few episodes of the original Macross (or Robotech if you have to) or Cowboy Bebop, or Escaflowne, and you will be stunned at the level of storytelling and creativity it has that the mainstream is entirely missing today and has been for many years.
While the medium has its own problems, as some of those infamous stigmas it has are real, the medium still remains far above what you will find in western comic books or television today. It still remains the best place to find pulp inspired stories outside of the printed word. If it wasn't for anime and manga I don't think I ever would have pursued writing, as action based storytelling had all but been banished by the time I picked up that issue of Dragon Ball back in the day. I'm not alone in that, either.
So yes, it has had a massive influence on what I write and how I perceive stories. I even have an idea for a future post examining these strengths and weaknesses the mediums have. For now, though, it has proven itself to be one of the few remaining positive influences on future writers, animators, and comic artists, and one that should be watched and examined. There is something there worth exploring.
And so ends this entry. Next post I will go into a less controversial area that will be sure to entertain. How do video games influence fiction writing and thought processes? I guess we'll see.
Until next time.
Dragonball is the only manga I have read in its entirety and also only anime series I have watched in its entirety (including the Z-series). Aaside from that I have read some Junji Ito's horror-mangas and maybe one-two volumes of Akira.
ReplyDeleteI remember a time when One Piece and Naruto were quite popular, but I never got into them. Main reason was in the aesthetics, I hate those washed out, anemic colours. I like my colours bright, like those in DragonBall. And I hate the visual style of One Piece anyways.
Old anime looks the best. Character design is more realistic, not every girl is a big-eyed lolita. And the effort was there, Akira might be the most visually stunning animation ever made.
I like manga to have a rough style when it comes to action which makes many post-90s manga with their cleaned up aesthetics less pleasing to my eye. I think much of that started with the Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach era.
DeleteAnime also suffers a bit from an over-reliance on computers when before they had to use hand painted cells and their own talent to make it shine.
Mainly I just want less artificial interference and more blood in my art.
The washed-out, pastel look of 2000s anime is due to the abandonment of traditional cell animation, but it didn't arise from a profit motive so much as necessity.
DeleteThis isn't well-known, even among otaku, but there was one guy who mixed all the paint for pretty much every anime. Dude was a master craftsman who was singlehandedly responsible for much of anime's look and feel.
He suffered a massive heart attack in 1998 and had to retire. With no one to take his place, the studios had to go all-in on computer animation.
One thing I do like about the 10s was the return of darker shades again. It's still not quite where it was pre-2000 but current anime is going to age a lot better than many of those early series from the early 00s.
DeleteI honestly think that quite a bit of the anime coming out right now is pretty great.
DeleteMy Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, Cells at Work (don't @me, I love that show), Kaguya-Sama, Hinamatsuri,The Promised Neverland (pacing issues aside), and JoJo's too. Part 5 has bren awesome.
There was definitely a slump but I'd call this a step back up. Good stuff is coming out again, including good shonen.
This isn't well-known, even among otaku, but there was one guy who mixed all the paint for pretty much every anime. Dude was a master craftsman who was singlehandedly responsible for much of anime's look and feel.
DeleteHe suffered a massive heart attack in 1998 and had to retire. With no one to take his place, the studios had to go all-in on computer animation.
You would think that's impossible in a country like Japan where there isn't any lack of manpower. But no, basically that guy took his craftmanship with him to the grave.
At least they still make hand-drawn animation in the east. I feel like there isn't any produced in the west, not at least in the big market. Sooner or later they even can't even if they wanted. How could they if there is noboy to teach them the old craftmanship.
The problem I have with 3D animation is that it was impressive for about 5 minutes and just about anything done with it would look far better done by someone like Don Bluth. It hit its peak remarkably fast.
Delete2D animation has far more to offer, but it's also more expensive to make good (IE, not jerky) 2D that stacks up to Sleeping Beauty or The Secret of NIMH. Japan's industry is far bigger (probably due to not have an ACT to meddle) so there's more to go around and less willing to put up with bad quality.
But at this point it is fairly obvious that animation looks best with hand drawn and painted cells. We've had more than enough time for other ways and they just haven't offered as much.
Sharpness down, film grain up, add a touch of motion blur. Makes newer anime look closer to painted cels.
DeleteDoesn't fix the pale look 00s anime tended to go for though. That was easily anime's weakest decade for visuals.
2D animation has far more to offer, but it's also more expensive to make good (IE, not jerky) 2D that stacks up to Sleeping Beauty or The Secret of NIMH.
DeleteThere is a soul to it that is impossible to replicate. 3D-animation has that plastic quality which was especially bad in the early days. I don't mind it in game cutscenes but animations I prefer traditional.
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba's current anime adaptation is awesome as hell.
ReplyDeleteIt gets even better.
DeleteSweet!
DeleteAll the credit to the studio putting it out. The direction is dynamic and interesting and it looks beautiful. It really feels fresh and exciting even though it really isn't either of those things, and that's a testament to the quality of the adaptation as much as the source.
Shonen anime at their best have the highest quality of storytelling due to their extensive worldbuilding and thr time they take to develop large, complex casts and storylines, prove me wrong.
ReplyDeleteYou can learn a lot as a writer from shonen, especially if you write action and adventure.
DeleteIt has a spirit and grit western comics have all but lost. Yes, even in most indie comics.
It will be interesting to think, what kind of influence anime and manga will have on western art. Because the generation that experienced it firsthand has now started to produce their own (like you). It's something that is hard to analyze yet so only in the long term we'll get to see results.
ReplyDeleteMy generation is the time you will start to see that influence stronger than ever, especially from those of the Toonami generation. It should be interesting to see what it brings forth because some of the writers I know find something like Gundam no different than Lensmen.
DeleteI'm definitely excited for that.
I'll leave the thematic question to JD, but on a technical level, a given anime production tended to have more frames of animation than its comparable Western counterpart.
ReplyDeleteBack in the day there was a palpable sense of anime getting better and better with each passing year. With the release of the Space Western Trilogy in 98, a lot of us looked at Cowboy Bebop and thought, "This isn't just cool noise and spectacle. It's an opus." Based on anime's upward trajectory thus far, we steeled ourselves for the next revelation.
ReplyDeleteSadly, what we thought was the end of the beginning turned out to be the swan song.
A few of the best series ever have come out since then. Death Note, Gurren Lagann, and both Fullmetal Alchemists are all-time greats (Brotherhood is much better, though).
DeleteI don't think Steins;Gate is perfect but regardless of my opinion it's going to go down as a classic. Kill la Kill isn't my cup of tea but is masterfully done. Konosuba is a brillisnt send-up of tired isekai and My Hero Academia is going to be known as a classic too.
A lot of good stuff has come out, some of it even transcendently great, but I think you're right that there was a lull until things picked back up again.
It was a shame what happened and the sudden hard shift Japan took. I remember going years disappointed with what they were suddenly putting out. The sudden shift in animation didn't help either.
DeleteStarting around 2015 they began to understand it and have slowly begun building up trust again. There's a worldwide audience that wants what they do best, and they're willing to wait for it.
The amount of modern manga writers that go on about their 80s and 90s inspiration has never been higher. I'm definitely excited to see where they go from here.
Kohei Horikoshi talks about Naruto as his biggest influence (though MHA is much better), but I'm still convinced there's some Yu Yu Hakusho influence as well in the fight scenes.
DeleteHorikoshi doesn't normally use super flashy choreography but he mastered what Togashi mastered in Yu Yu Hakusho: Telling a story with the fight. This is actually what raised the 3 Kings arc from mediocrity - how effectively he closed up the character arcs for the leads through their fight scenes.
Of course, after actually reading the manga, maybe he doesn't have YYH on his mind at all. I love Horikoshi, but bless his art, the fight scenes as drawn in the manga are wonderfully illustrated on a technical level but borderline incomprehensible. So maybe it's not Horikoshi but Studio Bones that uses YYH as an influence.
Scale is a big part. Japan is more comfortable increasing tension, killing characters with purpose, and shaking the status quo to wring out the potential of their stories. In the west we keep the scale more reigned in and hyper-focused.
ReplyDeleteAnd for a more "conservative" society they certainly are less afraid of risking cheese and embarrassment over ridiculous ideas than we in the West are.
That probably comes from having a higher trust society.
Anime usually puts more emphasis on a continuing storyline than US animation does. Even episodic anime usually has some amount of ongoing plot.
ReplyDeleteAlso Japan doesn't have the cartoons = comedy and comics = superheroes assumptions. You see a wider variety of subject matter.
ReplyDeleteAnd for a more "conservative" society they certainly are less afraid of risking cheese and embarrassment over ridiculous ideas than we in the West are.
ReplyDeleteThey are not so caught up in irony. In itself irony is fine, but it became a mandatory pose in the west. Only recently has it been declining but has only been replaced by political hysteria.
In the 90s, everything was supposed to be ridicilous. Nowdays, nothing is funny anymore. Different sides of the same coin, different symptoms of the same disease.
Sorry, if you already mentioned it but have you seen beastars? It’s a amazing series and I highly recommend it.
ReplyDeleteI've seen a few episodes. It was good, I have to get back to it.
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